Saying No to CEO Roles, Yes to Ownership

But any of the... And I guess maybe you said you do a couple of projects. You'll do project stuff here and there. But for the most part, you are trying to work on the business, not in it, even though you have the expertise to do some of the actual service delivery.

But mostly that's... Your vision here is just your two W-2s do all the work. Generate all the revenue, essentially.

Of course. Yeah, I don't want to, you know, like there's nothing so unique about what we're doing or about HR that couldn't mean that somebody couldn't learn along the way or figure things out.

It is a deep and broad field, deeper and broader than maybe we give it credit for. I mean, there are majors in HR. You can major in HR, can't you? Yeah.

Absolutely, yeah. And some very rigid accreditations. So it's not the HR part of it that I would say. It's the running the business part of it.

I think a lot of smart people could figure that out. Where I think I have an unfair advantage is that I can understand. I can look through the...

emails that Sissy and Jackie are responding to clients and know exactly what's going on and understand and not feel like, gosh, did they do that right? I would never doubt them anyway because they're extraordinary. So that's never why I'm looking at the email.

Usually I'm just curious as to what the topics are that people are asking about. And it's kind of seeing if there's any trends going on or things along that nature. And there's some clients where I'm always just kind of interested for them personally because I just want to make sure that they're getting taken care of from, not from our perspective, but like what's going on in their lives.

So when I talk to them, I know what HR issues they've got going on. But I think that, yeah, I think I have a pretty unfair advantage from that perspective. I also have an unfair advantage in that I know what I want and what makes a really good HR consultant.

So building my team, I think I, you know, I very much have the ability to see and know what it takes to deliver at the level that I'm looking to deliver to our clients because there's a lot of HR people out there. A lot of them are extraordinary. Some of them would not be able to cut it and what we're doing and how it's a standard that I want to do it at.

and i think you know these partnerships these relationships um of course again like a smart another smart person could come in here and i think figure these things out um but i i i believe i think part of um and part of this is from coming in and running makai hr in hawaii um and part of this is just you know Like my mentor, Dustin, like he always says, do no harm.