Complexity Hides Fragility: Losing a $20m Business

But it's, it's still painful. Happy to report that the person that lost a million bucks is still a very close Friend of mine, but definitely was awkward for a bit.

Yeah. And so how did you and you, Joe and Jess take it? What was the kind of emotional aftermath?

Just slugfest. Her and I still got along really well, but I remember one time where I'm like, hey, like, we both need to get counselors because I think we need to, like, have someone else to talk to about this stuff because, like, we're dragging each other down. So we had moments like that where it's like we're just. We're just talking about all this stuff and we're so aware of how bad things are…

It's like, I. I need. Like, we need to start talking to probably a counselor separately for. Just. From the standpoint of getting. Getting our. Our crap out so we're not just dumping it on each other.

There was nothing between the two of us that was ever negative or whatever. Just I'm dealing with my own negative emotions. And then we'd share them with the other person.

It's like, that's not helpful. It's like, now you're dragging me down with you. I need you to be strong when I'm weak, you know?

And so we kept finding moments like that, but for the most part, I can tell you, like, it was a great pick. She has been awesome. Was awesome. You know, her and I are still friends.

You know, we're still business partners, actually, which is great. And, you know, we're. I have to say, operating, which we're.

We're doing a business right now, but operating that in a place of strength rather than getting drugged through the mud, is a whole different ball game. It's a lot of fun and a lot less stress.

Joe, about the business itself, so. So what are your. What are your thoughts on the business itself? Was it a solid business that somebody who knew the industry better could have acquired?

Or was it all. Was it always a house of cards? What. What about the quality of the business that you bought?