The Origins and Future of a 9-Figure SMB Holdco

So we just. This again is one of these together elements for us, which is if any one of us had taken this on by ourselves, I'm not sure we would have gotten here, nor would it have come together like it did. But because we had all three of us, we were able to do more than one thing at once.

And I have to ask, Matt, I mean, we, we. We've heard now how you were invited to become an operating. The operator of the, of the.

The forestry forest products. Yeah.

Of Bellwether. But it sounds like at this point you're promoted even further into kind of being a co partner at this new. At this new Holdco level. Do I have that right?

Yeah, I love to say it, but promoted would imply that, like I've ever felt like I worked for Gantt and Lauren and I never really have. That's just not the way it is. We always felt like partners.

And I think it's probably hard to envision even for me now, but those first few years when we had a, you know, owner's meeting, it was the three of us at lunch at like a small restaurant in San Antonio. And so we would just sit together and half the time we would talk about firm attack, and half the time we would talk about Bellwether. And so over a series of years, we were, we were partners.

Like, I wasn't involved in firmatech necessarily. It was before me. But we all felt like we were talking about all of our issues all the time. And then Gantt mentioned our partner Keaton at Turner Mining.

He kind of came in and there were four of us. But this is still a very small group. So, you know, when we started to think more acquisitively, Keaton was very focused on growing his mining business and the other three of us had more interests on, you know, we were reading the eta, we were starting to understand search funds in a more professional way.

And so we, we kind of all set out together to do this and started to write up the original thought process about how we would go about it.

What was the vision then? What did you land on?

Gantt always comes up with a big hairy, audacious goal. So I'm sure he said like we were going to do $1 billion in five or ten years or something.